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Post by Rio on Nov 6, 2008 4:24:02 GMT 2
No one made a thread on this yet? Shame! I'm very happy that he won, and I would say more than this but I'm too lazy right now. Comments?
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Post by Silver Stryker on Nov 6, 2008 4:37:41 GMT 2
Yes. Look at the bottom of the boards. There's a little discussion on it now.
I'm glad he was chosen, I look forward to a better future and era, I'm hungry for pancakes, yaddyaddyadda.
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Post by Flash The Reploid on Nov 6, 2008 4:37:49 GMT 2
after all this talk about hating Obama about who he is rather than what he has to offer has just gotten me to think about the people now.
Over Xbox Live i heard many people say that they'd rather have Mccain just because Obama was black but i honestly find that offensive to me because that right there makes them racist.
I cant really say too much more on the topic but I think the basis is that Obama now runs america and I hope he doesn't mess up
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Post by Silver Stryker on Nov 6, 2008 5:08:05 GMT 2
Just one of the parts of change. Everything changes, not only for the better, but simply in every direction.
Racism is being unleashed more and more now because of one man being brave enough to push the limits placed on minorities. Those guys you were talking about? I bet they were the type of people to tell lots of racist jokes while believeing that there is no harm in it. And that's the problem there. The poison of racism had spread through comedy, and now that something like this has happened, the racist attacks have come as suddenly a snake bite. No one to blame either, except for those who had enough of a false sense of security to think that absolutely nothing would happen from "simply telling a racist joke." And all that's only applying if they weren't racist from the start.
Okay. I lost my train of thought around the beginning - middle of that paragraph. I think I ranted to someplace not even related to the subject, but I don't feel like looking up. Point is: Racism. It's growing, and if it does recede to nothing in the future, I think it's gonna cause quite a bit of a storm before doing so. And I know racism is apart of this because I hear alot of unnecissary hate words in the fling of negative comments about Obama.
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Post by Chaos Tank on Nov 6, 2008 6:20:52 GMT 2
So why then, do we make a huge deal about him being the first black president? The fact that he's black should mean nothing, it shouldn't be huge cause for celebration or commotion. He's a person and he's the next president, if you want people to stop saying racist things then stop making it such a big deal that we finally have a black president.
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Post by VileMKII on Nov 6, 2008 7:18:22 GMT 2
So why then, do we make a huge deal about him being the first black president? The fact that he's black should mean nothing, it shouldn't be huge cause for celebration or commotion. He's a person and he's the next president, if you want people to stop saying racist things then stop making it such a big deal that we finally have a black president. Amen. Finally someone else relized it. Like I said in the other thread I wanted Rudy, so when he dropped I kinda quit with all the poltics, as I didn't care for either of them.
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Post by Albireo on Nov 6, 2008 12:37:14 GMT 2
Well, being Black has nothing to do with the comment I in Australia hear.
Apparently, they're defaming him for being Muslim... Apparently we know that the USA is still at war with Lebanese who are Muslim by majority. Which is the basis for their words...
Apparently, I hear that Muslims have something like a "era of taking over" happening for them...
Though, the war could actually be ended by the next nuking in history... By doing that they'll make another Japan, look at where it took them.
But they're not, because it was bad enough the first time.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Nov 6, 2008 18:06:51 GMT 2
So why then, do we make a huge deal about him being the first black president? The fact that he's black should mean nothing, it shouldn't be huge cause for celebration or commotion. He's a person and he's the next president, if you want people to stop saying racist things then stop making it such a big deal that we finally have a black president. Because it's a factor for breaking whatever orppression there appearently is. Of course you don't give a damn because you're not racist and you haven't been told constantly by your parents that uit'll be years before there is something like this as a possibilty. Basically, there's alot of emotional things you can't and will never understand. You too, fencer. You don't care? That's perfectly fine if you don't know/understand in the first place. Just leave it at that and disregard the mass celebration of the first black president.
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Post by Chaos Tank on Nov 6, 2008 18:59:03 GMT 2
If there's one thing I can't stand its when people play the race card. I don't care if you're white, black or purple, I'll treat you the same. Until I catch you shoplifting in a store. Oh, but then that's not fair that I caught you, I'm obviously being discriminatory because of your skin color.
I'm happy Obama is president elect, I think he'll do a good job. I wish the race issue would just go away though. Because both sides are equally at fault here, if people would stop making it a big deal that he's the first black president then that'd go a long way towards actual equality. What I'm saying is that I don't even see him as black, just another person. And then people come and tell me that if I'm not jumping up and down holding signs for black equality then I'm part of the problem? I don't think so. It shouldn't even be an issue that he's black, and I firmly believe that making threads like this feeds the fire.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Nov 6, 2008 19:11:16 GMT 2
feed the fire to what, possible chance of flaming? Please, no flaming's gonna happen until you consistently say so.
There is no "race card." There's a bigger picture here than you think. No one's saying you should jump for joy simply because he's black, but rather that you quit getting on the cases of those who do. If you're not, then what you said shouldn't have even been brought up, about how any people are happy that he won.
Other people are seeing a diffrent and bigger picture than you are, and that's where the problem lies: It's not even about the politics anymore. You're crossing into lines that don't even concern you, considering you don't care. There's a [you]political story[/you], and then there's a [you]one more push to the chance of equality and all that whatnotness[/you] story. THere's no need to criticize a story you have no interest in.
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Post by Chaos Tank on Nov 6, 2008 20:15:09 GMT 2
I'm talking about feeding the racial fire, not flaming in context with the forum. If that goes on this thread'll get locked quick.
Don't tell me its none of my business or that it doesn't concern me. It concerns me plenty, I have to live here and I'm sick to death of being called 'ignorant' or 'racist' or told that I'll 'never understand.'
There is only a race issue because you say there is. If you would just let him be a man - not a black man but a man, there would be no argument.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Nov 6, 2008 21:49:23 GMT 2
Hey hey, now you're making this personal. As if I'm head of what's to be said or not. For him to not be regarded as a Man instead of a black man is only fiction, as much as I hate it. And that's the reality you'll have to live with. I'd love to go your way but there are too many people -of which exist even outside of the african american race- that refer to him as a black man. There's nothing any of us can do about the fact that his whole presidancy is partially a test in which that if he fails, alot of black people become ashamed, and if he succedes, well.... Pride and ego enlargement to our already large pride and egos. lol In fact, I probably should scratch out "blacks" and place it with "minorities." Sorry, but universal understanding is a huge key as to why people flip and parade around Obama's presidancy and why all this other stuff happends. Not only for the reason I stated earlier, but also why some should regard Obama as a Man instead of a Black Man.....kay. I'm done. My brain is dead for today.
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Post by Dualzero on Nov 6, 2008 23:42:04 GMT 2
Well....that's quite alot of food for thought.
But anyways I congratulate Obama for his success and future generations to come, and hopefully he'll be of aid in restoring our global economy.
Race isn't the only factor that caused the Democrats their victory, it was also due to the many errors that the Republic has made during their campaign such as Sarah Palin for example as people never saw her as a vice president that can take McCain's stead when he's gone, and the people that were supporting the Republicans were either conservatives or racist as the thought of an African American president to them is a poison to America.
Racism is an issue that I wish would disappear, but seeing human nature in its entirety its just impossible.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Nov 7, 2008 0:38:38 GMT 2
When asked how the economy was doing, McCain,...well, forgot his exact words, but his answer was basically, "Oh, it's fine."
That right there hit him hard enough. It's an assurement that he has no idea wtf the working class is going through. We didn't need that. Again.
And then he has seven houses or some crap. D: Sounds as if a spoiled guy ran for president for the hell of it at a certain viewpoint. lol
Kay, I said I was done with politics for the year. I'm done now.
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Nov 7, 2008 7:59:36 GMT 2
My belief is simple about this subject. Let's see if he can do it is all. Isn't that point of all those campaigns is to express his veiws so he can become what is the best or worst president later? I don't care what race and gender our president is. All I care about is if he can do a better job than the last. I hope I am not sounding a bit snotty because I kind of don't like being involved in politics and the whole race thing I know it will never end because there are always someone who will detest someone because they haven't taken the time to understand the predicament we are all in.
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