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Post by Dark on Aug 28, 2007 4:16:15 GMT 2
Lucky you. Are there scans of the book?
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Post by Darc Abyss on Aug 28, 2007 7:58:07 GMT 2
"No, X uses the Mother Elf to destroy the Sigma virus, not Sigma" (the quote button is being a  ...) Wrong. Sigma WAS the Sigma virus. He only stayed alive because of him becoming a more powerful version of the Original Virus. Although, it had less of an effect on Zero thanks to Sigma's influence...Sort of. It took more of it to turn Zero back into his Original self, the psyckopathic, hemophiliac android that, in the words of the great late Bass, look girly. |
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Post by GodsLove on Aug 28, 2007 22:28:00 GMT 2
"No, X uses the Mother Elf to destroy the Sigma virus, not Sigma" (the quote button is being a ...) Wrong. Sigma WAS the Sigma virus.  Okay.. So THIS right here is Sigma? Which would mean that you fight him in every stage like 20 times in X5.. yeeeaahhh... no. Theres no such thing as a virus with a physical form (except for BN lol). So. Sigma = The chin guy Sigma virus = Floaty purple chin head You = Wrong Nope! He stayed alive because everytime his body got destroyed, the VIRUS would find another host for him to infect. It even says this at the end of X1, which would add even more proof that the virus not his body, but his ghost to infect others. |
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Post by Darc Abyss on Aug 29, 2007 5:37:12 GMT 2
...You just proved yourself wrong. You said everytime his body is destroyed, the virus would find another to infect, and he would change it to his original appearence. Also, he was a more open version of the original maverick virus. He busted open Zero's gem, taking in the virus, and unlike most people, he retained his mind and the virus festered in his body, become stronger, infecting other around him. Think about it, how does a virus get stronger? By infecting others and growing in numbers.
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Post by Shadow Tamer on Aug 29, 2007 5:41:22 GMT 2
I have to agree darkc abyss on that one viruses do grow stronger with each infection
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Post by GodsLove on Aug 29, 2007 5:50:33 GMT 2
You said everytime his body is destroyed, the virus would find another to infect, and he would change it to his original appearence. The virus would not find a host, infect it, and change it to his "original appearance". It would find a host and make that person build a new body for him (example of this would be Dr.Doppler in X3, he gets infected and creates a new body for Sigma), I never said that the virus would find another reploid to infect and change it to his appearance. His body just adapted to the virus in other words, I don't know if I said that already or not though Good point |
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Post by Silver Stryker on Aug 29, 2007 6:44:36 GMT 2
You said everytime his body is destroyed, the virus would find another to infect, and he would change it to his original appearence. The virus would not find a host, infect it, and change it to his "original appearance". It would find a host and make that person build a new body for him (example of this would be Dr.Doppler in X3, he gets infected and creates a new body for Sigma), I never said that the virus would find another reploid to infect and change it to his appearance. His body just adapted to the virus in other words, I don't know if I said that already or not though Good point He has a point there. Sigma never created his own body. if he ever did, it would've been on X8...man that thing is ugly/cool... in every game, Sigma had someone make his body...it never specified who though.(example would be in X2....oh, wait...I forgot, but maybe the X hunters recreated the body, or perhaps the various amounts of resisting mavericks left over from the main war. half right, half wrong....no, those things are not him.you're right dude....BUT! sigma is indeed a physical virus. like kknown, viruses can manefest themselves, right? that's simply what had just happened. those small floaty purple heads are sigma in some manner. |
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Post by Shadow Tamer on Aug 29, 2007 6:47:56 GMT 2
Since Sigma is in virus form doesn't he have the power to multiply himself like real viruses do???
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Post by Dark on Aug 29, 2007 12:25:24 GMT 2
I very much doubt it. But now... MMZX or MMX?
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Post by Shadow Tamer on Aug 29, 2007 20:07:15 GMT 2
To be honest I never played MMZX and i only played 1 MMX game
(off topic: My 30th post woot)
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Post by Chaos Tank on Aug 29, 2007 22:44:19 GMT 2
Most of it is believable. I think though that Weil is Wily, not Cain Weil is not Cain or Wily, Weil is a completely different person Can't be proven either way, believe what you want to believe I guess.Do you know why Weil has a suit that could never kill him? Because the humans stuck him in that regenerative suit with his mind digitalized after the Elf Wars as punishment for what he's done, they after ejected him into space, alone forever without being able to die. Yes, I know about that suit, I've played through every series. But how could Wily have survived until X5 without it? He doesn't want to die, he's going to try to prolong his life somehow. The humans just took it one step further.That's why a Wily avatar appears in X6 under the name of Isoc Yeah, he's overconfident, he probably didn't change his name until Sigma died.No, X uses the Mother Elf to destroy the Sigma virus, not Sigma You're right, thats what I meant to say. Either way, Wily is left without his partner and has to change his name and stop putting giant Ws everywhere.WEIL never was a part of the Maverick Hunters, he hates Reploids and thinks their only use are as tools I know he hates reploids and thinks of them as tools, how better to destroy the Maverick Hunters than to get close to them? How else does he get the Mother Elf from X?His mind was transferred to his copy body because Ciel's ancestor made that copy body, and put Zero's mind in there so they could work on Zero's original body (To later make the Mother Elf) without tampering with his mind accidentally (causing him to go maverick again) Thats true, and Weil got ahold of it when he made his move.He gets the original body of Zero, gives it a mind (Omega) and builds Omega around it, then he later "curses" the Mother Elf, turning her into the Dark Elf, the Elf Wars begin, people and Reploids get killed (about 60% of humans, and 90% of Reploids are wiped out). Omega was built to draw power from the Dark Elf, which he never seizes during the Elf Wars that's why he couldn't be at full strength during it, Zero and X use final strike to stun Omega for a period of time and eject him into space, Weil is later ejected also, but illegally by the humans. Another thing, if Weil was Wily why would he take just the empty body of Zero and build Omega? That would go against everything Zero was to Wily, perfection, even if he wasn't maverick anymore it was Wily's masterpiece (or whatever you wanna call it), he could have simply stole Zero's brain and made him maverick again, but he didn't, because Wily is not Weil. Simple His body just adapted to the virus in other words, I don't know if I said that already or not though The virus adapted to Sigma, not the other way around. Hence the change from the Zero Virus to the Sigma Virus. |
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Post by GodsLove on Aug 30, 2007 2:26:07 GMT 2
But how could Wily have survived until X5 without it? We don't know, we can only speculate Actually, it was more like Zero's mind, even with his copy body he still managed to defeat Omega because of his determination, even though Omega(Zero's original)'s body is far better than Zero's copy body Bah, same thing :P |
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Post by Chaos Tank on Aug 30, 2007 3:53:34 GMT 2
Well lets hear your speculation since you have so many answers, how does Wily live to X5 without a life prolonging suit like Weil has?
And we know its Zero's heart and mind that matters but to Wily/Weil, the body and its powers were all that mattered. Reploids are tools remember, he could care less about Zero's mind, he only cared about the body he spent so much time on, his masterpiece.
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Post by GodsLove on Aug 30, 2007 4:02:33 GMT 2
how does Wily live to X5 without a life prolonging suit like Weil has? Capsule holograms? Hell if Light can do it I'm pretty sure Wily can, though I don't know, Capcom doesn't even know I bet. One thing that just popped into my head though is that "man" could simply be yet another Wily avatar like Serges or Isoc, it could even be Isoc too. Just my theory though Yes, Weil could care less about Zero's mind, but Wily does Weil spent no time on Zero's body Wily's masterpiece is not only Zero's original body, but also his mind, even if it is his "good" side it still is the mind that Wily built for Zero |
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Post by Shadow Tamer on Aug 30, 2007 4:06:47 GMT 2
I agree with the wily capsule thing because wasn't wily just as smart as light.
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