The End of Megaman Zero 3 an Anti Climax

[Crazyace]

yeah makes sense but what about his helmet how did that change

[Raikon]

Dude, he isnt human nor does he have any aging or modification cells or something, it can't just....change with time!
As i said, this MMZ body might be a kind of substitute body to replace the old one while it was being ridden of the Zero Virus. Since some managed to enter his intern parts like memory and stuff, they sent him asleep to rid the last of it

[Crazyace]

oh! ok w/e that pretty much answers my question, HEHE

[Dragonxq]

i was wondering that to

[bloodmister]

yup the real body of zero is well ar ..... it is quite lousy
but who noes wad happen at megaman x9, 10 ??(if there is well ....)
and the 3 headed omega was beautiful(except that zero head was ugly ............. )

[Pariah Ronin]

You guys are saying this when X, 3 out of 4 guardians, Eplizo, Omega, and several others which I can't think of at the moment... can change size, color, form, equipment pretty much in a moment's notice... and for some reason you believe that zero wouldn't be able to change his form as well... even if he is hibernating... Is this so beyond the realm of possiblity?

[P.Y.are.E]

pariah said:

You guys are saying this when X, 3 out of 4 guardians, Eplizo, Omega, and several others which I can't think of at the moment... can change size, color, form, equipment pretty much in a moment's notice... and for some reason you believe that zero wouldn't be able to change his form as well... even if he is hibernating... Is this so beyond the realm of possiblity?

It is until one of the X series' succeedors prove it isn't by having some sort of prelude to Zero's hibernation that ends the series off or is after.

[Pariah Ronin]

Yet all it takes is energy, or in Eplizo's case a cyber elf. And Zero has been exposed to a cyber elf to resurrected.

[Cutsman]

pariah said:

Yet all it takes is energy, or in Eplizo's case a cyber elf. And Zero has been exposed to a cyber elf to resurrected.

This is true, but he looked exactly the same before he was revived. How do you explain that?

Plus, if his body was switched sans the Virus, how did his present one get damaged in hibernation?

Also, at the very beginning of MMZ, he wasn't in hibernation. He was deactivated. There was also a shield around him that only a Cyber Elf could get through, and it killed the poor thing.

So here we have several new problems:

a) body has mysteriously changed, not due to Elf exposure

b) body was damaged upon discovery, yet protected by a nearly impenetrable shield

c) body was deactivated (possibly dead)

Correct me if I'm wrong, as it's been a while since I've played MMZ, but I'm fairly sure I've got it right in each instance. Now... how do we go about explaining all this?

[princeneo]

If you ask me, MMZ has almost everything to do with MMBN.

Did any of you know that Zero's virus starred as the final boss in Network Transmission?

And to answer to how Zero's body changed, I don't know. We can all speculate, but until Capcom or Inticreates decides to gives us clues, we're all in the dark.

But the theory that MMBN and MMZ are connected does seem, in some ways, possible. Though nowadays it seems to rival with MMX; hell, they could all be connected. Colonel appeared in BN5 as a Navi!

If you ask me, Capcom and IC just need to get their acts together and fill in all the plot holes. They'll have one helluva story if they can successfully connect X, EXE, and Zero.

EDIT: Did anyone stop to think that maybe Megaman X's Zero suffered damage from a crash similar to that at the end of Zero 4? Maybe his X-Version body was so damaged that he was made a new one, the Zero-Version. Question is, when was it? He came back as his X-Version in X6, and he survived the re-entry at the end of Command Mission. Perhaps in a later game, but again I can only guess. I only suggest this because even during the course of a century Zero's armor (and for that matter, his arms) would not have been able to decay that much unless he suffered major weathering. And in that case the instruments he was attatched to should've very well been destroyed by the time Ciel found him. Weathering and erosion don't seem very likely here.

EDIT2: Omega's appearance in Zero 3 caused rifts between the Cyber World and reality; perhaps somehow Zero's Virus made it into the real world and gained a corporeal body (Not sure how, but it's a theory)? Maybe Zero's Virus is Omega. For purposes of this theory I'll call his program form 'Zero.EXE'. Perhaps by way of the Cyber World rifts, Zero.EXE got into the real world and gained a body based on his program form. His original body fell to the Virus (Omega), and a copy was made to house his other, original mind. What happened and why Original Zero was placed in hybernation is beyond me, but it would've been easy for Omega to start his rampaging, meet with Weil, and have Weil merge his newly created Dark Elf with the 'bloodthirsty god of destruction' to make the hulking Omega that we know from Zero 3.

EDIT3: To reply to Omega (not 'omegaaa'), Passy didn't die breaking the barrier; she passed on reviving Zero. Cyber Elves die once fulfilling their purpose, if you recall correctly. Remember that Cyber Elves are solely program data; they aren't solid. They're holograms, like that of the Original X in his Elf form. It was probably nothing at all moving through such a barrier like that protecting Zero's body.

[Raikon]

Zero.EXE from Transmission was a virus created by Wily.
EXE is a FULLY paralel dimension to Zero, X and Classic.
Paralel dimension means same characters, different worlds.

[princeneo]

raikon said:

Zero.EXE from Transmission was a virus created by Wily.
EXE is a FULLY paralel dimension to Zero, X and Classic.
Paralel dimension means same characters, different worlds.

I see...I guess that'd explain the disconnection between it and the other two games. Ironic, isn't it? xP

Oh well; still not a bad theory, was it?

EDIT: Just got another idea; what if Capcom decides to follow Sega's example and pull off something similar to the game 'Shadow the Hedgehog'? Shadow had survived falling through the atmosphere after saving ARK, only to lose his memories. What if Zero, badly damaged but still alive, also suffers amnesia? Granted it'd probably be a disappointing knockoff in that case, but just maybe Capcom could add enough originality to make it cool nonetheless.

EDIT2: I realize that sounds hypocritical to something I said earlier; feel free to chuck pies at me now. ;;

[Track]

*Throws banana cream pie at PN* XD
Anyway, Zero's artistic change from X series to Zero series is exactly that. An ARTISTIC change. Capcom wanted something completly different from the X series in order to establish it as it's own series, making it seem less like a spin-off. So Capcom decided to go with a new graphical style for the new series. Zero's change in appearence is simply a change in art style, and therefore doesn't need an explination. You might as well pretend that he looks just like he did in the X series.

P.S. Shadow survived because he was still in his Hyper form. I still don't get how that happened at the end. How did he fall through the atmoshere in the first place?

[princeneo]

track said:

P.S. Shadow survived because he was still in his Hyper form. I still don't get how that happened at the end. How did he fall through the atmoshere in the first place?

Hm...banana-cream. xD

He fell because he had practically exhausted his power using Chaos Control to save the ARK; Sonic jumped into the energy portal as it transported ARK to a safe height in orbit, but Shadow didn't and/or wasn't able to. His Hyper Form lasted just long enough to let him survive re-entry.

Back on the topic of MMZ...

Yeah; maybe that's just it. But still; where's the fun without speculation? No one wants to believe X just up and ends, they wanna see if they can make MMZ fit into MMX. xP

[viruszero]

my thought on why zeros armor is different is that the machine he was found in was slowly building his body, making advancements and preparing zero for the day when he would awake, however when he was interrupted, the processes had not restored all of zeros memories yet, and he was not complete, then passy gave her life to break the shield, repair zero and force him to wake up.
my thoughs on the real body are that that virus was still in that and it was sealed off, which is why zero needed the new body ( plus years of battle damage really added up) zero had his memories and brain and heart taken out of the old body and was having a new body built.
the old body became omega and the virus was his main program, though it didn't spread due to the virus already having been cleaned of that abiliy before omega was found and activated. dr. wiel made a shell for omega's body to disguise him and to conserve power.