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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 2, 2009 9:09:36 GMT 2
Well I got bored and curious so who do you think is the best Zero out there to stand against each other in all out showdown of non stop fighting.
Maverick Zero: Yes this the Zero who apparently was the cause of the Maverick Virus, fought Sigma, got his head crystal smashed yatta yattdah... Very primitive and powerful for a Reploid with his fists and use of a metal pipe vs a light saber no joke kind of deal.
X1 Zero: This is the Zero that uses just his buster nothing specail really considering he'd basically functioned similer to X in terms of combat. Did I mention he dies way to fast considering he kamikazied the crap out of Vile's Ride Armor?Besides he was more of story impliment to save our beloved X anyways.
X2-X8 Zero: This the Zero we grew and loved because he had acsess to all sorts of implements of destruction without winking an eye this guy is formidible with his saber and the fact he can use a lot more weapons later in his Maverick Hunter profession makes him top notch. He also has access to Black Zero.
Zero Virus: Nothing Specail really considering this Zero image pretty much just kamikazies you and tries to kill you instantly as X in X5.
Nightmare Zero: This Nightmare copy of the Zero we grew and love in X6 whoopie do I'd say just a few different moves really not much of a big improvement ,but comes with a nice explosion I think and perhaps one of the most pathetic painful screams after getting hit be the Z Saber.
Absolute Zero: The nifty power up that made its debut in MMXCM famous for being the ultimate boss killer ,but limited to its fists of fury, it flies, all its attacks are ice attributed and well it looks like Bass as a vampire how cool is that? It wins with its RPG like moves.
Megaman Zero: The Zero with probably the best lines and the most tragic Death in the history of Zero himself. Well this guy is a master of many weapons like his past self, He comes with a lot of forms for you to chose from and probably more adapt when using his techniques and charged weaponry. Sorry no Omega for you!
Model Z Well this is the fate of Zero reduced to a talking, floating piece of metal that lets its chosen one tranform into perhaps a very downgraded Zero. Don't worry it has the Soul of Zero after all and it still managed to kick butt even as a Biometal. Just Ask the chosen ones for Models H,F,L and P! ;D
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Post by Miguel on Mar 2, 2009 18:05:45 GMT 2
Zero series Zero has the Chain-Rod and therefore can do a kickarse imitation of Scorpion, so he wins =D Also he has the Triple Rod and the Recoil Rod, and we already discussed how much he can kick with those.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 3, 2009 4:36:30 GMT 2
2-8 Zero because that'w when he's in his prime. And because he's not bound to a Z-saber like Model Z (I assume to be) is, he wins there. And since he's in his prime, this is also the time he had use of many weapons. I'm sure he'd snatch away Zero series Zero's weapons and use them twice as badass.
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Post by VileMKII on Mar 3, 2009 7:23:18 GMT 2
Nightmare Zero.
Not only did he hold my favort color, but his black saber screamed pwnage. Though he held every attack Zero did in the X5 fight, he did have one bad@$$ move of his own. Its rare to see, but its like a barrage of Zero shots that storm out. I love that move for some unknown reason.
In addition to all of that, he had a voice over that sounded awesome. His evil laugh, his painfull scream, his named attacks, oh who could not enjoy all of that!
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 3, 2009 8:30:00 GMT 2
Maverick Zero
This version simply because this was practically how Zero came to being as a raging reploid he could easily take down any without mercy. After all his original objective was to hunt down and destroy Megaman X and if anyone got in his way he'd simply attack like a fricken berserker and kill them. Afterall I did love the look on Sigma's Face after this guy freakishly manages to get up everything no matter how many odd possisions he got into. The one thing I found more funny than anything else was the fact a Metal Pipe outmatched Sigma's light saber now the pipe must have been with something or Sigma was really trying hard enough simply because Zero as a Maverick was a challenge in one small package. Even without any particular weapons.
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Post by Gilgamesh on Mar 3, 2009 22:39:56 GMT 2
I'd have to say Absolute Zero. I don't exactly know why, though. It just strikes me as a freaking awesome hyper form.
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Post by Miguel on Mar 4, 2009 1:18:27 GMT 2
Perhaps because for n00bs it's a guaranteed victory against Rafflesian and the two Belladonnas that assist her in guarding Ultimate X?
Or perhaps because, at full dubuya-ee, Calamitous Arts can take a good chunk out of any boss' health metre?
Or perhaps because it looks like a combination of Forte and Shade Man, which is freaking kickarse?
It's definitely a power-house, but outside of ice-based brute force and vampire-ness, it doesn't really have much going for it. It doesn't even have it's own personality, it's just X2-X8 Zero's first actual armor (Black Zero is just a new paint job with a bit of a stat upgrade).
And Stryker, Model Z may only have the sabre, but it can at least stab the ground to make energy pillars shot it's enemies in the arse. And it seems haxxor, what with the apparent ability to paralyze other Rockmen. In a Rockman on Rockman battle, Model Z's Chosen One definitely has the upper hand.
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Post by Chaos Tank on Mar 4, 2009 5:19:25 GMT 2
This upper hand wasn't enough to save Giro though.
I'd have to say his 2-8 form because he seemed most powerful then. In the MMZ series he doesn't have his original body and by ZX he's a suit for kids who want to play Power Rangers. In his purified viral form... that had potential but I don't consider it very significant. Yes X5 kind of revolved around it but that makes it all the less impressive. It was one boss, not even the final boss, and it was disappointingly easy to defeat. If Zero had reverted back to a maverick permanently though then I'd probably vote that way. He had so much potential as a villian.
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Post by Miguel on Mar 4, 2009 21:55:40 GMT 2
As a villain in a story that's just that, a story, a movie or an anime or a novel or something, then yeah, Zero would probably be a villain second only to Bullseye in terms of pure awesomeness.
But in a video game series, him being the main villain would only be frustrating to play (and I think X8's stage design proves that the X series is frustrating enough on it's own, thank you very much.).
And about Giro, plot-wise, Model Z seemed to be an amnesiac at that point (This is, what, the third time Zero's seen a memory wipe? Capcom, your story skills get an eff. Must try harder!), so he probably hadn't figured out how to paralyze other biometals yet. Gameplay-wise, Giro was the first boss of the game who actually had a chance of winning if you did more then just sit there picking your nose, so giving him a paralysis attack really would've been a bad idea.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 4, 2009 22:39:55 GMT 2
What's wrong with X8's stage design? I kinda see where you think you had trouble with X6, but don't tell me you had trouble with X8...?
Anywho, you guys keep referring to a paralysis attack. I dunno, X broke out of one, who's to say Zero can't? Especially if he's using it on himself? You don't mess with poison unless you have an antidote, or so to speak, so maybe Zero can't harm himself with such an attack.
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 5, 2009 0:14:38 GMT 2
Wow... I wasn't expecting a debate sheesh... Oh well yeah that boss in MMXCM was a pain ,but at the time I decided to be challenging and I didn't have absolute because I wanted to actually see Ultimate X more really so yeah that was a pain ,but I did well considering and got it on my third try...
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Post by Miguel on Mar 5, 2009 1:51:08 GMT 2
What's wrong with X8's stage design? I kinda see where you think you had trouble with X6, but don't tell me you had trouble with X8...? Two ride-chaser stages, one where you're pursuing the boss and if you fall behind you're in for some [sarcasm]fun times[/sarcasm], another where there's... I can't remember precisely what it was, but you don't see it coming. One tedious auto-scroll stage, where you have to do another one even after the boss. One stage where you're being chased by a giant mechaniloid, and then when you fight it as a mini-boss, it's harder then the actual boss. One stage that's hell if you lose the ride armor that doesn't respawn and there's only one spot where you can get another one. And then there's that stage where you're in the dark and tripping an alarm sends several shielded enemies at you. Then there's that barrel of laughes final fortress stage where you're faced with a platform that has spikes on top of it that you can barely clear with a jump, and you have to air-dash over it after wall-jumping off of it. There's a fine line between challenging and frustrating, and Capcom doesn't seem to care which side of it they're on.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 5, 2009 5:03:30 GMT 2
You know excuses don't cut it with the world of megaman. ...Perhaps because it was 3D, it effected your perception of the levels or something, I dunno. The only thing I agree with is the catching up to the boss thing on the ride chaser. yea, that level is annoying. Otherwise, everything else I jst have my own opinions for; They were all easy to me. I think Shic can vouch for me on that the only difficulties to me were the bosses themselves, hardest mode included. As for the final Sigma Level with the spikes, I've had everyone make it through that quite easily. (I'll admit it looks hard at first glace)I have more trouble on the last part of optic Sunflower's stage than that. But again, these are all only my opinions.
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 8, 2009 6:00:06 GMT 2
X8 was okay I think the real mess of stages was more in MMZ4 if you weren't familiar with the stage layouts or dumb enough to run into something that says death instantly...How was X6 a problem? I remember that being very simple and self explanitory once you learned how to counter the nightmare problems it was a cinch. Then again that is my opinion...
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 9, 2009 14:37:48 GMT 2
I think there was something about not being able to get through the last levels with certain armors or something. I don't fully understand though, cuz I was always able to get the high jump part and get through everything regardless of armors.
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