Vs. Match #1

[Silver Stryker]

A few days ago, a friend of mine brought up a very interesting question. Who would win in a fight, Iron Man, or Samus Aran?

Well let's go over the basics:


*traverses loads of hentai pics for a suitable one*

Samus Aran


A super-human fully armored chick with an arsenal of attacks such as:

Energy Cannon- A plasma cannon on her arm capable of a charged shot.
Missile- A nice-sized missile capable of giving some serious concussive damage
Screw Attack- a rapid flipping attack....ya'll know about this. I don't get really...

Samus is also giften with her infamous space jump, adding onto her already amazing agility. Through her recent games, she has shown to be quite the marks(wo)man and has excellent reaction timing. She has time and time again defeating galaxy-threatening odds, and has even proven herself against rival bounty hunters. She is a universal frce to be reckoned with.


......but on the other hand,...

Iron Man

Is one of the greatest heroes of the Marvel Universe.

His abilities include but probably do not limit to:

-Super Strength
-Durability
-flight

and an array of weapons such as his infamous repulsor rays fired from his gauntlets, the uni-beam projector in its chest, and pulse bolts, which have the ability to pick up kinetic energy as they go, thus adding damage the farther they fly among many other things.

Ironman is highly intelligent, a factor that helps him on and off the battle field. he has loads of firepower, and actually makes escellent use of the said firepower. With his tactics, he has even been known to at the very least, hold his grounds even against the Hulk, a feat only a few can pull off.

Well, I've said the bare minimum. Who do you think would win? give a scenoario of what would happen if the two were to go at it.

[randomdrifter865]

Samus would win because of many of her weaponry and the fact she can adapt into any situation like no tomarrow and handle it more professionally. On the plus side she has some uber weapons that could probably obliterate Ironman. Downside I'd say about her is the fact she can be beaten simply because Ironman has the advantage of flying and weapons that suit his combat style. Other than that Ironman's weakness would be his energy core on his chest. Fire on that and Tony is doomed because of the leftover shrapnel and the fact that core practically keeps him alive anyways and disrupts the power of the suit.

scenario wise if Samus was on earth or if it even remotely exists in her world or the galaxy. She would be at a few disadvantages. Territory is unknown, she can't really jump high anymore due to the gravity and she probably would be slown down a bit because of being used to absolute zero gravity. Advantages shes got a myrid of weapons that could do some devastating damage to Ironman, She has just about the same level of smarts as Tony on combat, She's very fit a super athlete if you would and she could drive a spacecraft.

Comically she could get shot down before even landing on to earth and Ironman wouldn't even get to fight her. If it was on her turf though Ironman would have to have another suit for the job and defently improve it with some better weaponry and different tactics from the Mk III. Good enough Silver?

[viruszero]

Firstly, I'm going to say that while Samus' weapons are indeed quite powerful, we have no way to tell how effective they are going to be on Ironman's armor. Her beam moves or missiles from the games are able to level doors and whatnot (as evidenced by the SA-X from Metroid: Fusion) And they're effective on machines or cyborgs (EX- Mecha-Ridley.) So it's likely that those types of metal would be stronger than IronMan's armor due to the time span between them. Not to mention Samus's armor is based on ancient alien technology (which is usually pretty freaking strong, if not the strongest type of technology.)

But counter to that, IronMan's armor is extremely tough, cutting edge in terms of development, and versatile. And his armor packs some powerful abilities... but seeing as how Samus's armor is alien technology how effective his moves are are going to be an issue.

Though I think the answer this lies in one aspect. Samus is susceptible to lava and so that gives us a clue to how tough her armor is. Lava is 700-1250 celcius (or up to 2500 Fahrenheit). So if her unprotected armor burns up at that, then it certainly isn't going to compare to the various Stark armors which are able to survive orbital re-entry (7527 celcius or 13,580.6 Fahrenheit). Even Samus's protected armor probably couldn't handle heat like that... And even if it did, that landing is going to hurt without a way to slow it down.

But also, Stark posesses a genius level mind. He is able to analyze things and develop solutions at impecable speeds, likely quicker than Samus could. Though he lacks the warrior training and chozo blood infusion that Samus has... So his reflexs are likely going to be a bit slower.

So for me, this is going to come down to what armor is Tony using...

Encephelo or Neuromimetic Telepresence Unit (NTU-150) armor - Tony isn't even in the armor, so he could send wave after wave of these and wear Samus down so fast it wouldn't even be funny.


Warmachine armor - Walking weapons tank. The most heavily laden with weapons, nothing else to say about this armor. Samus would have a very tough time against this due to all the weapons being laser guided and thusly ultra precise. as well as she'd have trouble with the sheer number of weapons... Repulsors, flamethrowers, (sub)nuclear missiles, missile launcher, pulsebolts, etc...

Modular Armor + hulkbuster - Hulk smash... Errr... Wrong hero. But the idea is still there. If Tony every got ahold of Samus while wearing this armor, then Samus wold be swiftly crushed into the ground. (This armor is capable of going toe to toe with the Hulk and surviving, and it's strength rating is about 175 tons of force, so it could easily break samus in half.)
Though this may be the easiest armor for Samus to defeat. Because of the large size of the armor, she could easily maneuver around it and shoot it until it was a wreck. (That is providing she didn't make a mistake and Stark caught her.)


Tinman armor - (Hellfire) Missiles are virtually useless against this armor, as it can easily withstand them. So Samus's best weapons aren't likely to be as effective. They might still hurt, but this armor could most likely shug them off. Samus would likely have to turn to the beam moves, but since they seem weaker than the missiles, this may not do alot of good for her.


Extremis armor (full power) - Stronger and faster than almost all other armors, as well as the most insanely cheap armor (as Tony can interface with any machine due to the extremis injection. ) He also heals and is stronger and faster himself as well, so not only is the armor tougher, but so is Tony himself. Using this armor, Tony could easily out-think Samus, follow her moves and counter. If necessary he could use satellites to track her and keep after her. Oh, and the armor regenerates itself as well using nanomachines, so Samus would have to destroy the entire armor and Tony in one shot to win... And that's not likely going to happen due to how powerful this armor is.


So, I'm going to have to give it to IronMan for most of them... (the only one Samus wins is against the Hulkbuster.)

Each armor has a significant strength for it that the others don't have and make it a worthy choice against Samus.

And yes, each of the armors I listed appeared in the comics.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Man's_armor
www.ironmanarmory.com/IMarmoryA.html

[Silver Stryker]

cool. I backed Ironman btw.

I never took Stark's armor choices into consideration, mainly because I didn't do so for Samus either. She also has diffrent sets of armor (even though I don't know if they'd be much diffrent from her normal version...save for the completed fusion suit)

so. Match #2 is on its way, folks. This is still up for any possible debate of course.

[Deathtanz Mantisk]

If Black Sabbath plays in the background, Iron Man wins.
Otherwisely, no.

[Chaos Tank]

I'm still having a hard time with this one. One obvious advantage that Ironman has is flight and therefore manuverability. Samus is fast but its hard to dodge all the missiles he could rain down on her.

But at the same time, Samus has dealt with flying foes before with no trouble, and she can lock on easily. Her different visors can scan for any possible weaknesses and exploit them, I can see the ice beam doing horrible things to Tony's repulsors and jets. Might send him into a building or cause him to fall off a cliff, depending on where the fight is.

Dunno how to rate this one.

[viruszero]

Hmm... Some lines from the movie might apply here:
"How'd you solve the icing problem?" (Stark)
"Icing problem?" (Stane)
"Might wanna have a look into it." (Stark)

I think Tony already has the ice issue beat, I mean if he can have his armor resist ice buildup by flight (as many of his armors do because they can handle high atmospheric flight) then it would make ice creation moves such as ones given by Blizzard more difficult to use against him. Not to mention that his repulsors are quite adept at breaking the ice off.

But ofcourse IronMan has to get hit by the ice beams first... But depending on where he's hit it'll affect what he has to do. Because if he's hit in the arm, thats a simple fix, and he can stay flying, possibly even jetting out of Samus's range for a moment to fix it if necessary.
But the bootjets being frozen might take multiple shots to do it entirely, as they are emitting quite a bit of heat... And it's not exactly like IronMan is going to stay a sitting duck after the first shot.

And if Ironman hits a building... so what, his armors are all pretty tough, most it's gonna do is break the ice and rattle his cage for a few moments. (Providing he isn't able to slow his fall by some other means... EX- using a/the repulsors.) But likely it'd be long enough for him to regain flight and begin attacking Samus again. Because she can't exactly fly herself... and her space jump doesn't exactly give her alot of speed or maneuverablity in comparison to true flight.

[Silver Stryker]

Plus there's a downside to Samus' lock on ability. It happends in MP3, but I dunno for her other games. If a flying enemy takes a swift pass over her, her lock on is quickly cancelled out. If stark realizes this, and successfully pulls it off, I imagine that Ironman bought himself at least a second of target practice.

But that is, if Samus isn't completely reliant on the lock on in the first place....like I was...>_>

[shicmuri]

theres also Samus' wave beam to consider which temperary disables electrical equipment and has a limited homeing capability. she could hit him with that then just pound away at his power source and he down

[Silver Stryker]

Uh-oh. This is comming from a fan of Metroid. Any responses to this? Can Stark avoid that at all costs?

[shicmuri]

never. i win HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
i like ironman too i just think Samus i better thats all

[viruszero]

I don't think the wave beam would be effective unless she hit IronMan right in the powercore. Otherwise the shielding of the armor would deflect the electrical energy away from it. (And useful note, pretty much every armor ever built, the powercore is not visible, it's buried inside the chestplate and thusly shielded by it. So, it's going to take a fair bit of work to get to it.)
But on the other hand, if Samus used the wave beam, IronMan might just be able to absorb the electrical energy (depending on the armor he's wearing) and turn it back against Samus. (So why bother dodging it when you can turn it against the user.)

But also, it had limited homing ability, and obviously IronMan isn't going to play sitting duck... He's going to make full use of his flight capabilities to ensure that very little hits him.

Though it's worth noting that if Stark used the Warmachine armor, and he knew his opponent fired beam moves, then he could easily grant the armor a refractory coating which would nullify most of the beams Samus could use.
As well, the war machine armor packs it's own emp blast... Though how effective this would be might be a gamble. It could wipe Samus's armor out completely, frying her shields and rendering her vulnerable and even if the suits power came back the shield might still be weak, so when the war machine armor booted up again, he could easily finish Samus's armor off then proceed to kill her.

[shicmuri]

that would only be true if her armor was actually powered by electricity and not some Chozo power she could also try the wavebuster and manually aim for his core which is just sunken into his armor and not very shielded

[viruszero]

Are you referring to the centre shape that glows on the chest? Because if you are, I have news for you... That isn't the powercore. That's the unibeam projector. (The actual powercore is above the unibeam and hidden underneath all the strong layers of the armor...)

Though for the extremis armor, there is no powercore as the armor uses decentralized power storage... so the entire armor acts as an extremely well shielded power core.

But even if Samus knew where the powercore was for the other armors, hitting it is going to pose a problem...

Besides I'm sure that if IronMan wanted he could end the fight somewhat quickly by swooping down, grabbing Samus and rocketing her up to low-middle atmospheric level and then flinging her down to the ground... Then firing the repulsors at her to help speed up her descent and destruction. As well as prevent any tricks like using the grappeling hook to grapple anything.
Samus makes a splat in her own crater and IronMan wins.

[shicmuri]

really? I thought that we were talking about the armor he was using in the moive cause that was the core.(at least i think it was.)