So uuuh... did flamey get hacked?

[Track]

Tom needs to seriously get one of those I.P. trackers and figure out a way to permanently BAN this guy. This is just ridiculous and actions need to be taken. People like this should never be allowed on the internet.

[SonicShadow2]

Nov 19, 2008 19:53:57 GMT 2 viruszero said:

The others weren't stolen?

Uh, maybe you wanna check that again... (Scroll down to 2006 and below... and see that they are indeed there.)
lordzeebmork.newgrounds.com/flash/

Look carefully VZ, do an author search for FlameZero. Everything is the same as the hacker's page: comments, score, preview, awards... he just hacked it so he will be shown as the author, and I believe that if you vote for "his" flashes it'll actually raise FZ's score aswell.

And when I said the other flashes, I was actually talking about the "Other flashes by <name>" option. It doesn't list any other flashes that FZ made but you can still see them in the link you've directed to us. So that proves that he is not the true owner and it also proves that this is indeed an NG hack.
Besides, I never said the others were not stolen.

[-Arc' Avery;;]

In all reality he's making a point.[LordZeeb]

Newgrounds is a shitty, easily hackable site, and he isn't stealing videos, as obviously you can still get to them from flamezeros profile, and get to them by searching for flamezero. Not like anythings changed, they're still there and the credit still belongs to flamezero.

Some guy is just messing with newgrounds, which seriously needs to be messed with, the security and moderation is highly lacking.
Proof of this is the fact that he hasn't been and probably won't be banned, in the end. But I could be wrong, we'll see.

[viruszero]

You know, the reason it might not show all the flash he's "made" is because it'd make the list too long, so it only shows the most recent. (or something like that.)

Because they still get attributed to his profile as well, and they're not on FZ's page... Which I should draw your attention to that on his profile page his account was tagged with [LoD]... Netto had informed me this was a hacker group. So then it would mean that the hacker had to break into FZ's account to leave that there, and this would likely be how the flash movies were transferred.

But again, if FZ's account was hacked and all his works made collabs with the guy, then attempted to be removed it's possible that the same situation could result... All the data would be transferred.

But we'll see what happens...

[Rio]

Wow, a group of hackers? That seriously sounds like a group of people with no lives

[-Arc' Avery;;]

I used to be a hacker, shut your trap. =P
In all seriousness though, just notify Flamey, stop being some personal defenders of the great guywhonevershowsup.

And yeah, you can be a 'hacker' and maintain a social life pretty easily. Just like most of the people who play WoW.

[Rio]

Nov 22, 2008 5:58:50 GMT 2 -Arc' Avery;; said:

And yeah, you can be a 'hacker' and maintain a social life pretty easily. Just like most of the people who play WoW.

I'm sure that's possible. Just the fact that it's a group made solely for hacking and is maintained by people..........hacking. So in order to stay a member of this goup you must........hack.

[viruszero]

Doesn't mean everyone is hacking all the time... it's just a group of people who hack and formed a group around it. Really no different from the clans or guilds or whatever from WoW.

And it'd be intriguing to know some hacks...

[-Arc' Avery;;]

Nov 22, 2008 7:33:40 GMT 2 viruszero said:

And it'd be intriguing to know some hacks...

No, not really.

[Silver Stryker]

Nov 22, 2008 7:11:03 GMT 2 Rio said:

Nov 22, 2008 5:58:50 GMT 2 -Arc' Avery;; said:

And yeah, you can be a 'hacker' and maintain a social life pretty easily. Just like most of the people who play WoW.

I'm sure that's possible. Just the fact that it's a group made solely for hacking and is maintained by people..........hacking. So in order to stay a member of this goup you must........hack.

I'd imagine it'd be no diffrent from sports players-- they train the majority of the day away, and they still have lives. (I'd also imagine the better you are, the less time needed to be wasted learning or something. Iunno.)

[Rio]

Nov 23, 2008 0:43:59 GMT 2 Silver Stryker said:

I'd imagine it'd be no diffrent from sports players-- they train the majority of the day away, and they still have lives. (I'd also imagine the better you are, the less time needed to be wasted learning or something. Iunno.)

The only difference is that playing sports regularily is exactly what having a life is. Most people who play a lot of sports end up becoming athletes in any sports teams and make a living that way. I play guitar everyday for a minimum of an hour and often times have band practice at guitar center.
No, electricians and computer companies won't except employees who have had a major addiction to hacking. By hacking, you are simply defying the law and wasting your life away making it harder and harder to ever get a living.

[viruszero]

Your logic is faulty there. Who do you think become anti-virus producers? Firewall creators? Cyber-Security guards? The very hackers themselves. Because who better to find a hole in a piece of software than a hacker. If you find it in developement before the software is made public, it makes it harder for another hacker to find and exploit it after the design team plugs that exploit.

But also, that's not to say everyone who hacks announces they do it. You can hack in secret as well... That is to say, your friends and family never know what exactly your doing. And if your good enough they might not figure it out. Because honestly, do you tell your parents everything you do?

[Albireo]

Oh yes, totally agreed virus

In reality, no one is without a life... People make their living somehow, though if you think they have no life, that depends on your definition of "life".

Anyways, just notify Flamezero, that should do. No need to friggin get out of our ways to do something behind his back, cos that might be even worse than trying to help him.

People like to do things themselves, some don't because they're lazy a-holes. But we know Flamezero isn't that sort of person.

[Rio]

Nov 23, 2008 5:57:16 GMT 2 viruszero said:

Your logic is faulty there. Who do you think become anti-virus producers? Firewall creators? Cyber-Security guards? The very hackers themselves. Because who better to find a hole in a piece of software than a hacker. If you find it in developement before the software is made public, it makes it harder for another hacker to find and exploit it after the design team plugs that exploit.

But also, that's not to say everyone who hacks announces they do it. You can hack in secret as well... That is to say, your friends and family never know what exactly your doing. And if your good enough they might not figure it out. Because honestly, do you tell your parents everything you do?

I find it hard to believe any hackers could get into those kind of jobs. It's a legal requirement that you fill out any suspicious activity in your life in your resume, and if you lie about that you'll get into even more trouble than if you just told the truth. Hacking is illegal, and letting a hacker become an electrician is like letting a robber become a banker. This isn't exactly important, nor is it what we're really talking about.

If this forum is dieing at all, I would suspect it's becuase no one knows FZ made those flashes anymore. People originally came here because they liked the stuff FZ made. Now that FZ has been stripped of all credit, this forum will most likely suffer. So, let's let that be of some motivation to bring him back...

[Silver Stryker]

Didn't you know? Many people lie in their resumes. To fight fire with fire is the theme of most jobs today, ya know. That is to say, yea ya get in some shnit if you get caught, but people do it to get by. Plus, if I recall, some courses in collage teach you hacking skills, and to send viruses and whatnot. My step-dad told me he was taught how to do so. (Dunno if it's necessarily collage, but you can be taught, wether in highschool, collage, whatever.)