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Post by viruszero on Mar 4, 2008 6:14:53 GMT 2
Zero's cocky... BUT he has the incredible skills to back it up. You don't get to be the leader of the special Zero squad by sitting on your butt...
And Zero tends to back it up when he fights. Close combat he rips most enemies to shreds without a second thought. He is far more cold blooded than X or Axl.
Axl hero worships Zero... it's nothing else. And Zero is X's mentor so he of course looks up to him.
In MMX:CM I found Axl wasn't that useful... his change abilities were ok, though I found his stealth capability absolutely garbage so I'd just as soon use Cinnamon. (Sure you have the stealth, you can't get hit, but you can't heal either and that's pretty bad if your facing down one of the 9 tails clan... especially one of the later ones that goes multiple times in a row. Or any particularly speedy opponent. You get your attack off but your still as vulnerable when it ends.)
And it's ok to showboat some, but if you take it to an extreme then your in trouble. Axl doesn't really take it to an extreme so he's not bad like that.
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 4, 2008 19:31:46 GMT 2
Zero's cocky... BUT he has the incredible skills to back it up. You don't get to be the leader of the special Zero squad by sitting on your butt... And Zero tends to back it up when he fights. Close combat he rips most enemies to shreds without a second thought. He is far more cold blooded than X or Axl. Axl hero worships Zero... it's nothing else. And Zero is X's mentor so he of course looks up to him. In MMX:CM I found Axl wasn't that useful... his change abilities were ok, though I found his stealth capability absolutely garbage so I'd just as soon use Cinnamon. (Sure you have the stealth, you can't get hit, but you can't heal either and that's pretty bad if your facing down one of the 9 tails clan... especially one of the later ones that goes multiple times in a row. Or any particularly speedy opponent. You get your attack off but your still as vulnerable when it ends.)And it's ok to showboat some, but if you take it to an extreme then your in trouble. Axl doesn't really take it to an extreme so he's not bad like that. what I did was give Axl a good amount of those things that allowed him to stay in hyper longer, and then equipped this sub weapon(forgot the name) that made enemies attack him in both slots. With that, the ninetails always tried and failed to attack him while all three are pounding on his nine-tailed arse. Of course, that was when I was bored of fighting. I battled ninetailes just as I battled sephi in ff7: keep alot of revivals handy...lol It tests my judgemental skills, "SHOULD I ATTACK, OR HEAL?! WTF!!!!" lol |
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Post by Raikon on Mar 4, 2008 19:48:07 GMT 2
@deidara: You're including X7 just to screw Axl off. The later games are the ones that count. viruszero: Axl's DNA change is extremely useful, capable of dealing outstanding damage to enemies. the Stealth Form hyper is probably the most useful in the game (excluding Absolute and Ultimate armors), with the Bait weapons he almost looks like godmodding. |
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Post by VileMKII on Mar 4, 2008 23:08:25 GMT 2
I'm includeing X7 as it was a MMX game, just like I incude the GBC games. I just don't like Axl and thats why I want MMX9, so that I can just beat the living sence out of him, though I want he to be more of a chalange than Sigma and Lumenia from X8
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 5, 2008 0:43:55 GMT 2
go harrass capcom about X8's too-easy gameplay. It'd be great if they put the physics of X4-6 onto 3-D so that we could have the X-type challenge that we all love.
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Post by Gilgamesh on Mar 5, 2008 2:25:05 GMT 2
I'm includeing X7 as it was a MMX game, just like I incude the GBC games. I just don't like Axl and thats why I want MMX9, so that I can just beat the living sence out of him, though I want he to be more of a chalange than Sigma and Lumenia from X8 Most people believe that X9 would cover the Elf Wars, so I assume you do as well. Omega would most likely be the last boss of X9, seeing as how he was the main reason behind the Elf Wars. Axl is gone from recorded history past X8, so there's a chance that Lumine's tentacle thing might have killed him. Sure, Axl COULD be, but don't go assuming that he WOULD be. The chances would be slim. EDIT: If you want to count X7, then you might as well say that X is a mega-pacifist who won't kill an enemy no matter what. Since that's how he was halfway through the game. In other words, X7 screwed alot of things over. EDIT2: I beat Ninetails on my first try without using Stealth Axl and Bait. |
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Post by Silver Stryker on Mar 5, 2008 3:20:20 GMT 2
I'm includeing X7 as it was a MMX game, just like I incude the GBC games. I just don't like Axl and thats why I want MMX9, so that I can just beat the living sence out of him, though I want he to be more of a chalange than Sigma and Lumenia from X8 Most people believe that X9 would cover the Elf Wars, so I assume you do as well. Omega would most likely be the last boss of X9, seeing as how he was the main reason behind the Elf Wars. Axl is gone from recorded history past X8, so there's a chance that Lumine's tentacle thing might have killed him. Sure, Axl COULD be, but don't go assuming that he WOULD be. The chances would be slim. EDIT: If you want to count X7, then you might as well say that X is a mega-pacifist who won't kill an enemy no matter what. Since that's how he was halfway through the game. In other words, X7 screwed alot of things over. EDIT2: I beat Ninetails on my first try without using Stealth Axl and Bait. hey, hey, so did I. I use that for reddips and when I'in a boring boss fight, namely the dragoon guy. |
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Post by viruszero on Mar 5, 2008 4:42:18 GMT 2
Me... I'd just as soon give the hyper limit extenders to X and Zero and watch them use that extra turn or two to pound out massive damage. (Absolute Zero and Ultimate Armor X... Most of the ninetails clan died in a 1-2 turns. Those that didn't... well they died on the third turn.)
But even excluding the ultimate hypermodes, X and Zero in their normal ultimate forms still were a force to be reckoned with...
And I maintain that Axl's dna change moves weren't that great. They did ok damage but I wouldn't substitute X or Zero out for him and I'd just as soon use cinnamon to heal every turn (we increasing moves on her so the others get +20 more we every turn coupled with a +15we gain per turn force metal meant she had roughly 50% every time, and I could get usually 6-7 hearts on the 50% charge.)
This worked especially well against tougher enemies that liked to do heavy damage every turn.
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Post by Shadow Tamer on Mar 5, 2008 5:51:30 GMT 2
I've never beaten CM but I do know that Axl's DNA change was an asset during the fight with the guy who would change elements every turn.
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Post by VileMKII on Mar 5, 2008 14:49:51 GMT 2
I'm includeing X7 as it was a MMX game, just like I incude the GBC games. I just don't like Axl and thats why I want MMX9, so that I can just beat the living sence out of him, though I want he to be more of a chalange than Sigma and Lumenia from X8 Most people believe that X9 would cover the Elf Wars, so I assume you do as well. Omega would most likely be the last boss of X9, seeing as how he was the main reason behind the Elf Wars. Axl is gone from recorded history past X8, so there's a chance that Lumine's tentacle thing might have killed him. Sure, Axl COULD be, but don't go assuming that he WOULD be. The chances would be slim. EDIT: If you want to count X7, then you might as well say that X is a mega-pacifist who won't kill an enemy no matter what. Since that's how he was halfway through the game. In other words, X7 screwed alot of things over. EDIT2: I beat Ninetails on my first try without using Stealth Axl and Bait. I do say that X is a pacifist, however in the game itself he chooses to fight, thus ending his own belifes. And if you don't know he always trys to avoid fights. |
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 13, 2008 12:09:29 GMT 2
You got to remember that anything after X5 or X6 is an alternate time line to the megaman storyline. So Axl is obviously alternate character. Though the zero series obviously talks about the elf wars. Which supposedly happened after X5 because that's were Infune wanted to end the series and start the zero series but, that didn't happen because capcom wanted to continue to milk the X series of its worth. so it went to X6 and Infune had to add the ending where zero seals himself for whatever reason which was the possible lead for the zero series. Of course thats the real path of the story. X to zero to ZX and eventually legends if that were the case... So X9 might not be where the elf wars had began. Remember all those plot holes? Well the Elf wars is basically a huge plot hole if you think about it because a lot of the events are not being added up correctly for some odd reason. So X9 might have its own strange and depressing ending. Though that's just my theory I'm not saying it's correct so bare with me here....
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Post by Gilgamesh on Mar 13, 2008 13:44:06 GMT 2
Actually, apparently X7 and X8 are actually canon games, despite the last game supposing to be X5(or X4, forget). The X6 ending actually depicts something that happens after X8, and during the Elf Wars, Zero is awakened. There's no real plothole besides the question of what happened to Axl. His wherabouts are unknown.
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 14, 2008 0:15:15 GMT 2
Good point but, like I said it is a theory of mine and others who find it hard to believe that X9 could be where the Elf Wars actually start. Oh and what does "canon" mean? Like I said in a different thread. I am extremely new to forum sites and might have a lot questions about terms and stuff. So thanks for the reply. If you like to explain you know terms and stuff. I'm using a thread called new guy on Flamezero general.
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Post by Miguel on Mar 14, 2008 2:07:33 GMT 2
Well I personally think that Axl's location post-X series is in Zero's subconcious, because I just made sense of it all by concluding that anything happening after X5 was just a dream Zero had while he was in his capsule, then when Copy X got in charge of Neo Arcadia some attack reach that lab where he was and trashed the whole place and wiped Zero's memory, explaining why the MMZ intro stage is in ruins and Zero's "Hibernation sickness".
But discussing the timelines is not what I made this thread for. I made it to see what everyone else thought of Axl. Randomdrifter, your two cents on the cocky rookie?
(EDIT: Got my contexts mixed up. Fixed.)
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Post by randomdrifter865 on Mar 14, 2008 2:25:17 GMT 2
Well not really I'm sorry about that its just something I thought I should mention that's all.... Remember it is my theory and I did notice the poll thing of course... Sorry Mr Miguael. He's alright for a character but, not great when he has to relly on just rapid fire weapons...
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